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Just Curious – 09/09/09

September 9, 2009

 

Many kindergarten through senior high school students all over the United States watched President Obama’s controversial speech yesterday morning and many did not. A number of school districts and classrooms across the country opted against taking time to listen.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said Friday the classroom is no place to show a video address from Obama. “At a minimum it’s disruptive. Number two, it’s uninvited. And number three, if people would like to hear his message they can, on a voluntary basis, go to YouTube or some other source and get it. I don’t think he needs to force it upon the nation’s school children,” he told reporters at the Minnesota State fair.

Florida GOP Chairman Jim Greer released a statement this week accusing Obama of using taxpayer money to “indoctrinate” children. “As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology,” Greer said. “The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the president justify his plans … is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.”

President Obama’s speech can be viewed here if you have not heard it.

What are your thoughts about yesterday’s speech to America’s youth? Do you think the speech was good for children to see in the classroom? Do you agree with Mr. Pawlenty and Mr. Greer? If you were a teacher, would you have shown the speech in your classroom?

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  1. September 8, 2009 10:38 PM

    I think the statements made by Mr. Pawlenty and Mr. Greer are ridiculous. Why would anyone find a speech about staying in school, doing the best you can and becoming a productive adult through education is a bad thing for school age children to see at school? What better place to give a speech about the importance of education than where the child is being educated I say.

    If I were a teacher and the leader of the free world was giving a speech about the importance of education, you can bet your ass I would have had the students of my class watch the speech.

    Many parents were upset about the speech as well. I’m sorry, but I just don’t get why! Why on earth would you have a problem with the President talking to your child about the importance of doing their homework, studying hard and spending less time playing their XBox? Did you find the speech “intrusive”? It was a 20 minute speech about something we should as parents think is IMPORTANT. It IS their future people.

    I personally think that Mr. Pawlenty and Mr. Greer should stay after school and help some teachers clean chalk boards. Right after they are done kissing Obama’s ass!

  2. September 9, 2009 8:29 AM

    I’m going to make a disclaimer before my official comment – I have not yet actually seen the speech. I’ve been on the road for a few days, and woke up at insane o’clock this morning so I don’t yet feel like I have the attention span to fully absorb the message from the President. Give me a couple hours for my brain to start functioning properly.

    That said, all I know is that when I was in high school, they interrupted sixth period so that we could watch the verdict of the O. J. Simpson trial. I would love for someone to explain how a message from the President of the United States of America about the importance of education is more controversial than the verdict of a celebrity murder trial.

    • September 9, 2009 9:57 AM

      Well said Megan! Seems pretty silly doesn’t it?

  3. September 9, 2009 10:43 AM

    This is my honest opinion. My husband turned this political also and I think the reason so many people did this is they think he is just to “everywhere” and people are just sick of seeing him on TV ALL THE TIME. Sad to say, I knew this would happen. I wrote a post about it last winter. When he’s on ALL THE TIME, people tend to tune out to much and now he wants to do one little thing and the country is in an uproar. I think most people just didn’t know what he was going to say. He has not been honest on so many other issues.

    Okay. The school speech. I think it’s all very fine and good for him to give a “pep” talk to our school kids. I don’t see anything wrong with it at all. BUT…being a school employee for so many years, the first day threw them all into a tizzy. Do you have any idea how hard that first day is? You don’t know your kids yet nor their parents. You have planned all summer what you were going to do that fist day. Kids are nuts to be back and it’s a very trying day. Now throw in this speech. You have to make separate plans for the kids whose parents are causing problems. Just where do you send all these kids who have to be pulled out of this? Then you have to set everything up in gym or lunchroom working around lunch schedules and gym class. We don’t all have TV’s in every classroom to just sit at our desk and watch this. My problem with this was the timing of the whole thing. NOT THE SPEECH but NOT on the first day of school when the stress levels are already so high.

    You know? You know how ready your own kids were to go back to school, imagine trying to deal with 1500 nutty kids and then throw in all the parents. The timing was off. I think he should have done it next week and I wouldn’t have had any problem with it.

    • September 9, 2009 6:08 PM

      You raise a good point about the timing of the speech. I can understand how the speech being held on the first day of school being difficult for teachers. Maybe it would have been best for President Obama to give the speech a week or two AFTER school had started. It still would have been plenty early enough in the school year to get his point across.

      I was speaking more about the parents and politicians getting theirselves in a tizzy about the President giving the speach at all.

  4. timshel1 permalink
    September 9, 2009 12:44 PM

    I hadn’t thought of it from that perspective Joy, but that’s a very good point. The perspective I was viewing it from was as a student, and the easiest day is the first day (in my opinion of course). There’s not a whole lot of learning, it’s just kind of easing back into things. So for students that might be the most convenient time to hear the speech, but probably not so much for teachers. From what I understand though, most teachers were more upset with the message than the timing of it anyway.

    Mr. Greer’s opinion that Obama was trying to indoctrinate socialist ideas was kind of extreme. I’m not a big fan of politics period so I’d like to think I have an unbiased opinion (or maybe it’s biased towards all politics), but I personally didn’t see any agenda aside from an encouragement and challenge towards students.

    I also think that the message probably reached the children that don’t really need to be reached (the 4.0 GPA students without behavioral problems) and the students that need to hear it weren’t reached so much (the 2.0 GPA with behavioral problems). But 10 minutes out of the day to watch a speech isn’t that bad all things considered.

    So Gary, when can we talk about religion?

    • September 9, 2009 6:21 PM

      I’m not big on politics AT ALL to be honest. I believe politicians are no better than mobsters except mobsters go to prison for their actions and politicians get raises for theirs. I just don’t see how a parent would have a problem with their children watching this speech by our president.

      I thought we would talk about religion after we tackle homelessness and the failing economy if you are cool with that Tim? LOL

  5. S. Le permalink
    September 9, 2009 2:24 PM

    I think if it were anybody but a black President there wouldn’t have been one word about it and no protests. People, in general, are stupid.

    • September 9, 2009 4:37 PM

      I disagree with you 100% S. Le. I could give a rats ass what color anyone is. Quite frankly, I’m getting sick of this race card getting thrown in every time anyone disagrees with him.

    • September 9, 2009 6:22 PM

      I’m sorry S. Le but I don’t see how the color of his skin has ANYTHING to do with ANY of this at all. Just sayin. 🙂

  6. September 9, 2009 5:26 PM

    Obama is a good speaker, and he is very careful with his words. (He knows he has to be!) I don’t understand why people would want to keep their kids from hearing what their president has to say.

    • September 9, 2009 6:23 PM

      I don’t either birdpress! Seems very silly to me anyway.

      Thanks for dropping by! 🙂

  7. September 9, 2009 9:37 PM

    This does not involve me. I had no reason to watch it. I had no desire to watch it. I feel that education is extremely important. Is a person making a speech about it one day enough to get a child motivated to succeed, or does it take the continual joint actions of parents and teachers over the years of a child’s education?

    • September 10, 2009 10:27 AM

      I disagree when you say “this does not invole me.” The youth of today are the leaders of tomorrow! 🙂

  8. September 9, 2009 10:04 PM

    Did the President speak to the kids in school? I am so out of it! Ha! That’s what I get for living in my cabin in the mountains, churning butter, and homeschooling my kid. LOL Seriously, I already teach my child the importance of education, to love learning, and to respect the Office of the Presidency (equipped with our new President placemat that has Obama on it). Good enough.

    You are a brave soul for posting this topic Gary! Kudos to you!! Anything political scares me these days.

    • September 10, 2009 10:29 AM

      Churning butter….HA…you kill me Tammy! Good enough is right….way to go Tammy! Have you taught them how to churn butter yet? LOL

  9. September 9, 2009 11:34 PM

    I hate politics. I don’t think President Obama did anything wrong. People need to lighten up. the comments by the Governor and the GOP Chairman are uncalled for. Someone should look into the last time those two did anything to motivate a child to stay in school, etc…

  10. September 10, 2009 12:46 AM

    TRUTH BE KNOWN IT NEEDS TO ALL START WITH SCHOOL AGE KIDS IF WE EVER EXPECT A CHANGE. THE EDUCATION SYSTEM NEEDS TO CHANGE FROM GRADE SCHOOL TO COLLAGE TO COMPETE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD. I THINK HE IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK BUT NEEDS HELP WITH THE HEALTH CARE PROBLEM. I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR HIM TO START WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES FIRST WITH REGULATIONS AGAINST CAPS ON MEDICAL COVERAGE. CAPS ON WHAT THEY CAN CHARGE AND NO MORE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ANYONE WITH PRYOR HEALTH ISSUES, RACE OR RELIGIOUS BACK GROUNDS. ONE THING THAT HAS ALWAYS PISSED ME OFF WAS PAYING HIGHER RATES FOR CAR INSURANCE BECAUSE I AM A MALE.

    • September 10, 2009 10:30 AM

      I couldn’t agree more Purple Hatter!

  11. September 10, 2009 3:55 AM

    I’m not American so I feel I have no right to express an opinion on it. I hate politics too so even on Australian politics I express my right to not have an opinion. I just left this comment so you know I was here

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